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Trump says no one was tougher on Russia as Ukraine will change shape
U.S. President Donald Trump declined to say in an interview with CBS’s “60 Minutes” whether he trusted Vladimir Putin or Volodymyr Zelensky more, saying he got along with both. He said the war would end soon and that Ukraine would ultimately be “a little different in shape.”
U.S. President Donald Trump said the main obstacle to peace remains the “hatred between Zelensky and Putin.” The interview with CBS “60 Minutes” host Ross Douthat was recorded at the White House on Friday and aired on Sunday. It was Trump’s first major interview after the Republicans’ defeat in the midterm elections.
“If I had been president, this war would never have started. But it started, and I inherited it. I think we are very close to a deal,” Trump said. Asked whether he trusted Putin or Zelensky more, he replied: “I’d rather not say, but I get along with both.” When the journalist reminded him that Ukraine had been invaded, Trump agreed but added that “Russia was shown great disrespect” at the leaders’ first meeting.
“No one was tougher on Russia”
Trump rejected the suggestion that Putin was manipulating him. “I don’t think so. No one was tougher on Russia than I was. Look at our trade, look at what I did with sanctions,” he said.
In this segment, Trump answers a question about whether Putin is manipulating him and points to trade measures and sanctions. Douthat then objected that Washington had recently lifted sanctions on Russian diesel fuel. Trump denied it: “I didn’t lift sanctions. I gave Russia the opportunity to supply not us, but the world with thousands and thousands of barrels of oil and diesel that it needed.” Speaking about the outcome of the war, he said: “I think we’re going to do it, and ultimately they’ll have a Ukraine that is a little different in shape.” He provided no details about possible territorial concessions.
Weapons, Starlink and $350 billion
In the extended version of the interview, Trump contrasted his policy with that of his predecessor. He said Joe Biden had given Kyiv “$350 billion in cash and weapons,” while he himself had given Ukraine “nothing”: the weapons are sold to Europeans at full price, and they pay for them.
In the extended version, he also answered a question about reports that Ukraine’s access to Elon Musk’s Starlink satellite system had been restricted. “It’s a very good system, and perhaps it was slowed down. I have not been shown that this happened. There are many lies surrounding this war,” he said. As Anadolu reported, he added that communications were eventually “turned back on.”
The interview aired several days before talks between Ukrainian, Russian and U.S. delegations in Abu Dhabi, scheduled for November 10–11. It was the first such meeting since February. French Foreign Minister Jean-Noël Barrot said Europe would also be represented at the negotiating table.
Photo: White House. Video: CBS News “60 Minutes” / social media
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